Hahah... I'm sure I have many friends that would take offense to that guess.
[He can imagine Mammon would get a proper beating five hundred times over if he said as much to the many witches who he owed debts to.]
It's entirely based on where their magic first originated. There is one title for those that find it by pure study, one by contract with a magical or spiritual entity, and one for those with an innate gift from birth.
There's some intersection, of course, but that's the main difference.
I should count myself lucky since you are so gracious.
[ Jing Yuan looks at Solomon with a wry little smile as he says this. But, anyway... ]
I believe I understand your explanation well.
...Since you stated you've been familiar with practicing magic at such a young age, am I right to assume that those deemed sorcerers are ones granted the innate gift of magic at the time of birth?
[ Taking an extremely wild guess here. He supposes Solomon could have been a very young study too. So, what does he know? ]
[He'll even clap for you, Jing Yuan. Here, have some Pan Candy.]
There are some wizards who grow stronger than sorcerers, some sorcerers over warlocks, and so forth. The strength of a user's magic relies on the user themselves.
So really, it's just all pedantic at the end of the day.
...Ah, I appreciate your consideration, though it seems I will have to ask you to keep that candy with you.
[ So, Jing Yuan smiles politely and refuses it.
He did basically say his feelings on the cooking earlier, so he can't pretend that he will accept it...what if Solomon tried to feed him later on, and he's in a position where he can't refuse because he didn't before? He'd die!
Anyway, moving right along... ]
It certainly sounds like the case. Though, it is hardly surprising there are different labels where this matter is concerned. Even if it could be a bit simpler to have it under one umbrella.
[He looks very disappointed, like a kicked puppy. But he'll still continue with what he's doing, quietly searching for some sort of container to put his snack into. No need to keep it in the pan, that's just silly.]
Mm, I agree. I've been in favor of a broader term myself, but it's never gained much steam.
I wish we knew more about how the wizards here operated. There's no study material in the library despite wizards having been involved with this land for an incredibly long time. It makes me wonder if it's something rarely innate, or just a craft that's become a very guarded secret.
[ He'll say that much; if it isn't food, he will be more than happy to accept other things from him.
Either way, the current topic draws Jing Yuan's interest in deeply, as he considers the matter carefully. An interesting fact to be revealed for certain. ]
That could be intentional. The knowledge of which we desperately seek is rarely kept in plain view. But in places where eyes rarely fall...that may be where it could be grasped at all. Indeed, it could be a very well guarded secret; I'm certain some aspects of magic would be similarly kept away from prying eyes even in your world, yes?
But, if we know where or who to ask, perhaps we may be enlightened on the subject more?
That would be correct. It tends to be safer for all involved, and cause less panic to a broader populace, if it stays only within the parties that need to know.
[Ah here we go, this jar will work... time to migrate his danger snack to be portable.]
Since the notes of the sages don't seem to have anything, I have to wonder if the more extensive knowledge would be with other wizards themselves, known or otherwise. And we're, unfortunately, absent on quite a few of those.
Ah, it sounds as if you are very well knowledgeable in that area. Though, considering you voiced your evident specialization in magic from such an early age, I find myself hardly surprised.
[ Off does that snack go...who knows what dangers it will cause to someone else? ]
Perhaps we can find a way to follow their traces? They must have certainly left something behind before their disappearances. It would seem short-sighted for anyone of quite talented capability in the art of magic to not leave some relevant information to our situation behind.
[ Though even if they did, it is possible it wouldn't help much, depending. ]
I've dabbled here and there. [heehee heehee heeheheheheheh]
As far as tracing goes, though... I doubt it would be feasible at the current low levels of power we possess. Tracking magical ability normally takes a measure of concentration.
Following our dear sparrow's advice on strengthening our connection should be first and foremost in our minds. I don't think he speaks with the bluntness he does without reason.
[ Jing Yuan says with a light, amused tone. But, he is not fond of incredibly overt arrogance, to be frank, so it's received just fine, with a bit of teasing to boot. ]
Dear sparrow? ...Oh, that is a nickname, isn't it? [ ... ] But you're correct that strengthening our connection seems to be still the first step towards us getting anywhere at all.
We are unfamiliar still in this world, and have yet to truly acclimate to the magic we can wield here in the first place. Quite a pain, but, well. We'll be able to make do, hm?
Like a gold ring in the snout of a pig is one who flaunts their beauty without thought for modesty.
[AKA thanks, he tries to be when he's not attempting to quietly threaten certain groups.]
Our mentor asked for a name, and I felt one in particular fit him rather well. To call him our little sparrow is, simply, an easier option in the moment.
Anyway. Patience will benefit, regardless of our situation. Let's hope some of our number learn that lesson without too much mistake. [A beat of silence passes as he finishes capping off the jar, his smile thinning as he sets the empty pan aside.]
There's quite a few children in our midst. Only a few that, if I'd guess, are anywhere in the prime of life. While I hope for flexibility and a greatest chance for their growth, I worry for what they may struggle with.
[ Jing Yuan makes this sort of...sound? As he raises a hand, and briefly looks away for a moment. Then, he clears his throat, but when he looks back, he appears firmly amused. ]
...Quite a phrase, but definitely apt.
[ In his opinion, anyway. But, he gives a nod at the explanation for the nickname. He does not seem to object either...he likes lions, but also he is fond of birds as well.
His expression does notably sober a little as the other man bring up the matter of children being with them. But, then, even so, his expression marks a sort of determination as well. ]
Mm. And patience does not come easier to young ones. If anything, their hearts tend to be filled with far greater amounts of worry as well. They can tend to have had experiences that don't make them well-inclined towards such a situation.
...It will be upon us to serve as a sort of guide, so that their struggles may be less. Even if you and I know that they will not be none.
If they also see we are patience, that too should benefit them all the more.
It takes time, and the pain of mistakes, to round out the experiences that give one confidence and serenity in their choices. If only we had more to go off of, to give them a little more of an anchor...
[He caps off the jar with a sigh.]
Let's hope they're willing to take what advice that can be provided. If not... then may they have the courage to keep trying regardless.
[ It's true, that they don't have much to offer; no one does, except for their own selves and what they can even build.
Though, even so... ]
Yes. I cannot help but believe that even if they are unwilling to heed council at first, they will gain the wisdom to do so. And if they lack the bravery to keep trying, they will have enough desire to reach for help, so that they can gain the strength to know how to attain the courage to do so.
Then, the day will come when what we seek is revealed to us, and we can guide them ever more effectively.
[ And if he is wrong to believe this much, he can only find out. ]
[Once again his wand is raised, only for nothing to happen. Ah. Right. He has to do this by hand. Damn, how inconvenient. Time to use the faucet to prep for washing this pan like a normal person.]
You're well spoken, dear Jing Yuan. We should meet for tea sometime.
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And, as he's watching Solomon consuming one of crystals... ]
...Oh? Is it simply that wizards are meant solely for parlor tricks, and sorcerers are for those more capable of that, then?
[ But maybe it could be something else to it as well? Such as experience? Lineage? ]
Or is it something else that differentiates the two?
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[He can imagine Mammon would get a proper beating five hundred times over if he said as much to the many witches who he owed debts to.]
It's entirely based on where their magic first originated. There is one title for those that find it by pure study, one by contract with a magical or spiritual entity, and one for those with an innate gift from birth.
There's some intersection, of course, but that's the main difference.
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[ Jing Yuan looks at Solomon with a wry little smile as he says this. But, anyway... ]
I believe I understand your explanation well.
...Since you stated you've been familiar with practicing magic at such a young age, am I right to assume that those deemed sorcerers are ones granted the innate gift of magic at the time of birth?
[ Taking an extremely wild guess here. He supposes Solomon could have been a very young study too. So, what does he know? ]
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[He'll even clap for you, Jing Yuan. Here, have some Pan Candy.]
There are some wizards who grow stronger than sorcerers, some sorcerers over warlocks, and so forth. The strength of a user's magic relies on the user themselves.
So really, it's just all pedantic at the end of the day.
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[ So, Jing Yuan smiles politely and refuses it.
He did basically say his feelings on the cooking earlier, so he can't pretend that he will accept it...what if Solomon tried to feed him later on, and he's in a position where he can't refuse because he didn't before? He'd die!
Anyway, moving right along... ]
It certainly sounds like the case. Though, it is hardly surprising there are different labels where this matter is concerned. Even if it could be a bit simpler to have it under one umbrella.
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[He looks very disappointed, like a kicked puppy. But he'll still continue with what he's doing, quietly searching for some sort of container to put his snack into. No need to keep it in the pan, that's just silly.]
Mm, I agree. I've been in favor of a broader term myself, but it's never gained much steam.
I wish we knew more about how the wizards here operated. There's no study material in the library despite wizards having been involved with this land for an incredibly long time. It makes me wonder if it's something rarely innate, or just a craft that's become a very guarded secret.
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Now, Jing Yuan looks a bit sheepish. ]
It certainly was.
[ He'll say that much; if it isn't food, he will be more than happy to accept other things from him.
Either way, the current topic draws Jing Yuan's interest in deeply, as he considers the matter carefully. An interesting fact to be revealed for certain. ]
That could be intentional. The knowledge of which we desperately seek is rarely kept in plain view. But in places where eyes rarely fall...that may be where it could be grasped at all. Indeed, it could be a very well guarded secret; I'm certain some aspects of magic would be similarly kept away from prying eyes even in your world, yes?
But, if we know where or who to ask, perhaps we may be enlightened on the subject more?
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[Ah here we go, this jar will work... time to migrate his danger snack to be portable.]
Since the notes of the sages don't seem to have anything, I have to wonder if the more extensive knowledge would be with other wizards themselves, known or otherwise. And we're, unfortunately, absent on quite a few of those.
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[ Off does that snack go...who knows what dangers it will cause to someone else? ]
Perhaps we can find a way to follow their traces? They must have certainly left something behind before their disappearances. It would seem short-sighted for anyone of quite talented capability in the art of magic to not leave some relevant information to our situation behind.
[ Though even if they did, it is possible it wouldn't help much, depending. ]
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As far as tracing goes, though... I doubt it would be feasible at the current low levels of power we possess. Tracking magical ability normally takes a measure of concentration.
Following our dear sparrow's advice on strengthening our connection should be first and foremost in our minds. I don't think he speaks with the bluntness he does without reason.
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[ Jing Yuan says with a light, amused tone. But, he is not fond of incredibly overt arrogance, to be frank, so it's received just fine, with a bit of teasing to boot. ]
Dear sparrow? ...Oh, that is a nickname, isn't it? [ ... ] But you're correct that strengthening our connection seems to be still the first step towards us getting anywhere at all.
We are unfamiliar still in this world, and have yet to truly acclimate to the magic we can wield here in the first place. Quite a pain, but, well. We'll be able to make do, hm?
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[AKA thanks, he tries to be when he's not attempting to quietly threaten certain groups.]
Our mentor asked for a name, and I felt one in particular fit him rather well. To call him our little sparrow is, simply, an easier option in the moment.
Anyway. Patience will benefit, regardless of our situation. Let's hope some of our number learn that lesson without too much mistake. [A beat of silence passes as he finishes capping off the jar, his smile thinning as he sets the empty pan aside.]
There's quite a few children in our midst. Only a few that, if I'd guess, are anywhere in the prime of life. While I hope for flexibility and a greatest chance for their growth, I worry for what they may struggle with.
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...Quite a phrase, but definitely apt.
[ In his opinion, anyway. But, he gives a nod at the explanation for the nickname. He does not seem to object either...he likes lions, but also he is fond of birds as well.
His expression does notably sober a little as the other man bring up the matter of children being with them. But, then, even so, his expression marks a sort of determination as well. ]
Mm. And patience does not come easier to young ones. If anything, their hearts tend to be filled with far greater amounts of worry as well. They can tend to have had experiences that don't make them well-inclined towards such a situation.
...It will be upon us to serve as a sort of guide, so that their struggles may be less. Even if you and I know that they will not be none.
If they also see we are patience, that too should benefit them all the more.
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[He caps off the jar with a sigh.]
Let's hope they're willing to take what advice that can be provided. If not... then may they have the courage to keep trying regardless.
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Though, even so... ]
Yes. I cannot help but believe that even if they are unwilling to heed council at first, they will gain the wisdom to do so. And if they lack the bravery to keep trying, they will have enough desire to reach for help, so that they can gain the strength to know how to attain the courage to do so.
Then, the day will come when what we seek is revealed to us, and we can guide them ever more effectively.
[ And if he is wrong to believe this much, he can only find out. ]
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[Once again his wand is raised, only for nothing to happen. Ah. Right. He has to do this by hand. Damn, how inconvenient. Time to use the faucet to prep for washing this pan like a normal person.]
You're well spoken, dear Jing Yuan. We should meet for tea sometime.
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Jing Yuan does manage a little smile at the compliment as well. ]
We should. I don't have anyone to share tea with as of now, and it is quite a shame, my new companion.
[ He says lightly, but it isn't like he often had guests over either. But, he thinks it'd be nice. He can see if Solomon is into chess.
That said... ]
...I suppose I should be getting a move along. It was nice talking to you, Solomon.
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Likewise. I'm at the end of the third floor, if you ever have a free afternoon.